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Steep fall for Hurdle not unprecedented

Rockies manager the latest to be dismissed after title bid

05/30/09 3:06 AM ET

The short time span between the Rockies reaching the 2007 World Series and Clint Hurdle being dismissed as their manager Friday certainly isn't unprecedented in baseball or other pro sports.

One season and 46 games of the next one would go in the books between Hurdle being a Fall Classic hero and being out of a job. But a look at recent years in baseball, basketball and football shows it's no lock that a manager or coach who takes his team to a title will be around for years to come.

Of the 60 teams in the finals of those three sports since 1999, there have been 19 that changed their manager or coach within three seasons of vying for a title, and 16 that have done so within two seasons.

In baseball, winning the World Series definitely has its benefits. The past four winning managers (counting Terry Francona of the Red Sox once for his two championships) and five of the past six are still filling out lineup cards for those clubs. Since 1999, only Arizona's Bob Brenly was dismissed within three years of winning it all. Joe Torre left the Yankees seven seasons after their last title and four years after their last World Series berth, and Jack McKeon retired two seasons after his Marlins won the 2003 Series.

However, reaching the World Series but not winning it (a la Hurdle) has not translated to a world of job security.

Of the past 10 managers whose teams lost the World Series, four of them did not enter a third season following the league championship:

• Bobby Valentine was dismissed by the Mets following the 2002 season, two years after leading them against the Yankees in the Subway Series.

• Dusty Baker didn't manage another game for the Giants after taking Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent and the Giants to the 2002 World Series, losing in seven to the Angels. Baker landed with the Cubs, but only after it was clear he and the Giants were not going to come to terms.

• Phil Garner was the toast of Houston after swooping in midseason in 2005 to lead the Astros to their first World Series, but he was gone by Aug. 27, 2007 -- one season and 131 games into the next.

• Hurdle's post-Series tenure lasted only slightly shorter than Garner's, gone before June of the second season out from glory.

In each case, job security like Bobby Cox and Tony La Russa enjoy was not part of the story. Valentine and Baker had been under fire for quite some time, and Garner and Hurdle both were in tenuous situations leading up to the end of their runs.

Meanwhile, runners-up Cox (2000 Braves), La Russa (2004 Cardinals), Jim Leyland (2006 Tigers) and Joe Maddon (2008 Rays) remain with their clubs to this day.

In the NFL, two coaches retired right after winning the Super Bowl (Dick Vermeil of the 2000 Rams and Bill Cowher of the 2006 Steelers), and another did so two seasons later (Tony Dungy of the 2007 Colts). Among runners-up, the Giants' Jim Fassel coached three seasons before being dismissed, and the Raiders' Bill Callahan coached for one more.

And in the NBA, Larry Brown jumped to the Knicks one season after winning with the Pistons, the Lakers' Phil Jackson took a year hiatus from the Lakers and Larry Bird (Pacers, runner-up) and Pat Riley (Heat) both stepped aside. On the flip side, Byron Scott was dismissed by the Nets two seasons after back-to-back Finals appearances, and Avery Johnson was let go by the Mavericks two years after a Finals appearance, making the playoffs each of the three years.


After the glory
A look at managers and head coaches who guided their clubs to titles in MLB, the NFL and the NBA since 1999.
Year
Champ
Mgr/coach
Final season
Runner-up
Mgr/coach
Final season
BASEBALL
1999YankeesJoe Torre2007 (Left for Dodgers)BravesBobby CoxStill with team
2000YankeesJoe Torre2007 (Left for Dodgers)MetsBobby Valentine2002 (Dismissed)
2001D-backsBob Brenly2004 (Dismissed July 3)YankeesJoe Torre2007 (Left for Dodgers)
2002AngelsMike
Scioscia
Still with teamGiantsDusty Baker2002 (Left for Cubs)
2003MarlinsJack
McKeon
2005 (Retired)YankeesJoe Torre2007 (Left for Dodgers)
2004Red SoxTerry FranconaStill with teamCardinalsTony La RussaStill with team
2005White SoxOzzie GuillenStill with teamAstrosPhil Garner2007 (Dismissed Aug. 27)
2006CardinalsTony La RussaStill with teamTigersJim LeylandStill with team
2007Red SoxTerry FranconaStill with teamRockiesClint Hurdle2009 (Dismissed May 29)
2008PhilliesCharlie ManuelStill with teamRaysJoe MaddonStill with team
FOOTBALL
1999-2000RamsDick Vermeil2000 (Retired)TitansJeff FisherStill with team
2000-01RavensBrian Billick2007 (Dismissed)GiantsJim Fassel2003-04 (Dismissed)
2001-02PatriotsBill BelichickStill with teamRamsMike Martz2005-06 (Dismissed)
2002-03BucsJon Gruden2009 (Dismissed)RaidersBill Callahan2003-04 (Dismissed)
2003-04PatriotsBill BelichickStill with teamPanthersJohn FoxStill with team
2004-05PatriotsBill BelichickStill with teamEaglesAndy ReidStill with team
2005-06SteelersBill Cowher2006 (Retired)SeahawksMike Holmgren2009 (Retired)
2006-07ColtsTony Dungy2009 (Retired)BearsLovie SmithStill with team
2007-08GiantsTom CoughlinStill with teamPatriotsBill BelichickStill with team
2008-09SteelersMike TomlinStill with teamCardinalsKen WhisenhuntStill with team
BASKETBALL
1999-2000LakersPhil JacksonLeft after 2003-04 season; returned from '05-presentPacersLarry Bird1999-2000 (Resigned)
2000-01LakersPhil JacksonLeft after 2003-04 season; returned from '05-present76ersLarry Brown2002-03 (Resigned; went to coach Pistons)
2001-02LakersPhil JacksonLeft after 2003-04 season; returned from '05-presentNetsByron Scott2003-04 (Dismissed)
2002-03SpursGreg PopovichStill with teamNetsByron Scott2003-04 (Dismissed)
2003-04PistonsLarry Brown2004-05 (Left to coach Knicks)LakersPhil JacksonLeft after 2003-04 season; returned from '05-present
2004-05SpursGreg PopovichStill with teamPistonsLarry Brown2004-05 (Bought out by Pistons; left to coach Knicks)
2005-06HeatPat Riley2002-03 (Stepped down before '03 season)MavericksAvery Johnson2007-08 (Dismissed)
2006-07SpursGreg PopovichStill with teamCavaliersMike BrownStill with team
2007-08CelticsDoc RiversStill with teamLakersPhil JacksonLeft after 2003-04 season; returned from '05-present

John Schlegel is a national reporter for MLB.com and writes an MLBlog, The Grind. Corey Gottlieb contributed research to this article. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

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